Huldra Forsvant (Theodor Kittelsen)

Huldra Forsvant (Theodor Kittelsen)
Huldra Forsvant (Theodor Kittelsen)

Thursday, May 14, 2009

And One More Thing..

The thing that has really struck me about the public outrage about the whole Johns incident is that the argument is so vehement, but really, so flimsy. It all rests on consent, as though what happened was only wrong if it was not consensual. This really for me shows that morality is pretty meaningless outside of God.

Two quotes I read this morning on
Craig's' blog made the point well--

'On a more deeper level the episode shows the black hole our society has fallen into by building its sexual ethic around the concept of consent. There are circumstances where the power dynamic is so uneven that consent is not possible.'
--Jeremy Halcrow

'I don't get how they (the media) can spend every minute cheapening sex and then condemn people for taking the next logical step.'


Pedro said...

Benno, these situations are quite hard to discuss as they are very delicate even at the best of times. The whole concept really headbutts the moral and social boundaries most of us embrace.
However, that quote you put in this particular post has prompted me to have a say.
'the power dynamic...consent' part is common sense in most people's eyes but i personally have known people involved in BOTH sides of the equation and believe it or not, consent was a foregone conclusion! Happily given!!
Its hard to imagine but, and this is part of the reason the depravity in these situations has gotten to this leve. There are women throwing themselves into this situation time and time again...willingly.

In the washup we are primal beings capable of unspeakable acts whether it be sexual or violent or otherwise. We do however have the choice to be involved in such scenarios and thats where the lines are drawn.
If the NRL doting public continue to put meathead footballers on pedestals held high by unnaccountability and irresponsibility then these situations will continue as they have for many years to come.

Don't put a bandaid on an axewound, take the axe out of their hands.

Anyways, my 02. worth....

Ben McLaughlin said...

'We do however have the choice to be involved in such scenarios and thats where the lines are drawn.'

Yes, and my point is that in our culture we say it's fine to go as close to the line as you possibly can. Therefor that line is almost a joke in the end, because it's only a little tiny step that is supposedly seperating the good normal people and the terrible monsters.

Nathan said...

I wish everybody would just take the good sentences I write and ignore the rest...